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There are so many lovely and wrenching depictions of Fingon’s body after the Nirnaeth, but one of the things I always come back to with that scene is that, based on Tolkien’s description of Fingon’s death, there probably was no body left.

"At last Fingon stood alone with his guard dead about him; and he fought with Gothmog, until another Balrog came behind and cast a thong of fire about him. Then Gothmog hewed him with his black axe, and a white flame sprang up from the helm of Fingon as it was cloven. Thus fell the High King of the Noldor; and they beat him into the dust with their maces, and his banner, blue and silver, they trod into the mire of his blood."
 
(emphasis added)

The balrogs seem to have done their level best to obliterate the high king of the Noldor; Fingon was a bloody smear on the battlefield with the shrapnel of his armor stuck into the dirt by the time anyone was able to try to recover him.
 
And I think that only adds to the trauma of his friends and family. Elves value life so highly and each death to them is a great tragedy because of their immortality so I’ve always felt that for them some kind of proper funerary service is extremely important. But for Fingon, they have nothing to bury, nothing to burn, nothing to set to sail out in the ocean. Maybe they’re able to recover his weapon, or scraps of his standard, or warped, bloody chunks of his armor, but probably not much more. For Elves who are so reverent about life, to have a body desecrated that way must have been horrifying.

This, to Maedhros, is the result of his best push against Morgoth. In the wake of this, Turgon, the last living child of Fingolfin and Anaire, takes up the crown of the high king of the Noldor. This is the legacy of the Nirnaeth to the Finweans: the annihilation and gross violation visited on Fingon.
 

I think this makes it even sadder tbh Turgon doesn't get to cradle his brother's corpse. Maedhros doesn't get to take a souvenir to remember him by. They get nothing. They can't even have a proper funeral whatever that means for Elves.

I would have loved for Turgon and Maedhros to have a chance to talk after the Nirnaeth...I don't think it would have been especially friendly. I think Turgon was wrecked by Fingon's death, especially coming after the deaths of Elenwe, Aredhel, and Argon. ALL of Turgon's siblings were dead after the Nirnaeth. He was the last of Fingolfin's children and I do believe that weighed on him quite a lot (which may also explain why he was so willing to trust Maeglin--he was probably clinging to his remaining family by then).

#thank u noodle for getting me the quote#left my silm copy across the country :')

 

Date: 2022-07-23 02:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] carmenta
In a way, Fingon is the most tragic of the high kings for me as far as deaths go. He's the one who never seems to have actually been interested in the job in the first place, and he had to take over at the worst time possible. No grand deeds in his reign, just a gradual decline of his people's fortunes, and in the end he probably died knowing that their last desperate attempt to really make a difference had failed.

And there isn't much positive for the Noldor to remember him by, not due to his own faults but because they haven't had a chance for a victory or even any significant progress to remember him by. At that point, it must have become clear that they were losing and that the only question now was how long they'd be able to stave off defeat. That Fingon was the last actually accessible High King must have been a giant blow to morale in general, and like you say, it must have been crippling to the family for a while, especially with Fingon as the main reason they still had some kind of bridge between the Feanorian and Fingolfinian sides.

Date: 2022-07-24 11:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] carmenta
I've always felt that Turgon was the least prepared for the job of high king, at least when it comes to the Beleriand ones. His instincts clearly go towards the defensive, which makes sense given how action keeps leading to loss, in his experience. But it doesn't make him a good king, because with his retreat back to Gondolin, everyone else is suddenly cut off and it all fractures into pieces.

I like your thought that for Turgon, the entire attack against Morgoth was a terrible idea but that he participated because Fingon needed him. For him, the crown falls to him at the absolutely worst possible moment, with no actual personal support network anywhere outside Gondolin, given that Fingon and Finrod are now both dead (and I wonder whether he knew about Finrod beforehand, that must have been a huge additional blow, given how close they were). There's simply no-one left anymore aside from Orodreth (for a few more years) and the Feanorian cousins, who're clearly not people he wants to rely on in any way.

I wonder if it ever was an option for him to re-establish connections outside of Gondolin at that point, or if he'd simply given up on that.

Date: 2022-07-23 08:42 pm (UTC)
grey_gazania: the silmarillion's fingon lying dead with text: high king (fingon needs moar cuddles!)
From: [personal profile] grey_gazania
Between Fingon's body being utterly destroyed and everyone else ending up on the Haudh-en-Ndengin, I think it must have been a huge psychological blow to the people left behind, on top of the despair that came with the catastrophic loss of the battle. Fingon's time as king and how it ended is just heartbreaking.

Date: 2022-07-24 06:25 pm (UTC)
grey_gazania: a large white rabbit sitting at a boardroom table with text: plotbunny. the boss. (death awaits you all)
From: [personal profile] grey_gazania
Right? We know Morgoth planned to defile Fingolfin's body, but Thorondor got there in time, so Fingolfin at least got a proper burial. Fingon's only "memorial" is a pile of corpses raised by his enemies.

Also, I got a bit of a plotbunny from this post. If it turns into anything, I'll credit your meta.

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